Labor Day weekend Fun. NOT....


V1rowT8

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So we blast off this morning for a planned 4 day Labor Day w/e trip, and here's how it went....

Early start, Admiral still in the rack. She gets up as were leaving. Water was flat, so I cast off, with intent on just going at hull speed until she got ready for the day. Ran the genset for her, and left a/c on.

30 minutes later, the Admiral is ready for the day, and she emerges in the cockpit....at which time, I set cruise power, and off we went.

About 3-4 minutes go by, and I notice that I think I'm hearing a slightly louder than usual exhaust noise. I pulled the power back a little, and asked the Admiral if she thought she was hearing something unusual. Her reply.....no, but I think I smell something burning. At almost the exact same time, an engine alarm sounds. I immediately go to idle, and l look down at the engine guages, only to find the Starboard engine temperature guage pegged, and I immediately shut it down. (2 minutes earlier every engine parameter was absolutely normal, but we were at idle then.)

By now, I'm smelling the odor myself.....irrily similar to a fire! Quickly, I grab both of our auto-inflate vests, tell her to put hers on, and just in case, I position our inflatable raft for quick exit. No smoke emerges, but I chose to leave the day hatch closed for a few minutes as a precaution. At this point, the auto fire extinguishing system had not activated, so I was feeling relatively confident that there was no fire. I turned the boat around, and began to limp back to home port. Fun-fun getting back in my slip on one engine, and no power steering. (Note to self....should practice this more often.)

Once secure in the slip, it was inspection time. Didn't take long to find that a hose clamp had broken. To be specific, the discharge side of the hose between the seawater pump, and the heat exchanger. So the water pump was pumping lots of seawater into the bilge, and none thru the engine. Fortunately, all the discharge stayed low, and did not effect components sensitive to seawater. (Think alternators, ect...)

I'm thinking the "burning" odor we smelled was anti-freeze. Once the engine got hot enough, the coolant reservoir's pressure relief valve let go, and dumped anti-freeze all over the exhaust manifolds. Trust me, that odor will get your attention when 4 miles from land!

Anyhow, 1 stainless steel hose clamp, a refill of anti-freeze, and we appear to be back in business. I would have liked to have seen 2 clamps on this hose, but the nipple wasn't large enough. I'm gonna gripe to the engine manufacturer about this. Anyhow, the engine ran fine upon repair, and I'm cautiously optimistic that it is okay, as it was only hot for a very brief period. We'll see tomorrow, as we're gonna try this drill again. If she runs well at cruise power, I'm gonna consider myself fortunate to have dodged a bullet.

Safe and happy Labor Day to all.....
 
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Thank goodness all is well, space for one hose clamp, will we never cease to be amazed at the lack of proper design in the marine industry?
 
Thx 260.

Did a 25 mile run today, and everything was fine. I was VERY pleased. Someone else had mentioned constant torque clamps as an alternative when there's room for only one clamp. Have to admit, I was unfamiliar with the design, but I'm looking at them. All in all, pleased to be back on the water relatively unscathed.
 
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At least this is something that Volvo and Merc have in common....terrible design issues related to hose clamps.

The same exact thing happened to me a few years ago, 20 miles from the closest land in 3-4 foot waves. It was not fun !

I just don't get the Marine Industry...but I guess if we keep buying, they keep not caring!

Glad your weekend worked out...catch you later!
 
The same thing has happened twice to us. Ever try stopping in 2-4 footers and climb into the engine compartment?

Not fun. I've replaced all stock clamps with ones made by AWAB. Practical Sailor magazine did a comparison of various brands a few years ago.

These were by far the best. So I changed the ones on either side of the raw water pump, to and from the heat exchanger and oil cooler.

Time will tell.
 
Breeze Constant Torque hose clamps are available in Stainless. I have used them for years both boating and in business. (commercial trucking industry) Torque them to the specified value and forget about it, they are designed to maintain a constant torque on the hose, Hence the name. You can find them relatively cheap on E-Bay.
 
Glad to hear everything worked out in the end, I'll be looking into the referenced constant torque clamps!
 
Thanks to all above for your suggestions, shared experiences, ect... It's all too obvious that this is a pretty common problem.

That said, the clamp design learning curve has been pretty steep for me since my recent debacle. I never realized how many failures are attributed to hose clamps....some with catastrophic, or potentially catastrophic results. It's a sure thing, I'm going to replace ALL of my cheap clamps with ones of much higher quality after this recent exercise.

For those interested, here's a link to a good article on this subject:

http://www.passagemaker.com/channels/hose-clamp-selection-part-i/
 
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The same thing has happened twice to us. Ever try stopping in 2-4 footers and climb into the engine compartment?

Not fun. I've replaced all stock clamps with ones made by AWAB. Practical Sailor magazine did a comparison of various brands a few years ago.

These were by far the best. So I changed the ones on either side of the raw water pump, to and from the heat exchanger and oil cooler.

Time will tell.

Thanks again for this info, Seas. I've been quite busy, but I'm finally getting around to making this upgrade.

I spoke with Whitney at AWAB a few days ago.....what a really knowledgable resource. Hard to believe how much knowledge there is to gain about something seemingly as simple as a hose clamp.

Interestingly enough, this company also markets and distributes the Breeze Constant Torque Clamps, but Whitney advised that they are not the optimum choice for marine hose applications....for a couple reasons I won't go into here.

Anyhow, I'll be upgrading to the AWAB clamps next week. They are virtually indestructible, offering MUCH greater reliability. The use of these should largely alleviate the problems discussed in this thread that so many of us have experienced, and as the Marine trade goes, they are a relatively small investment. IMHO, Marine engine manufacturers should be using these as OEM, but what do I know...
 
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